{"id":496,"date":"2024-02-19T18:59:28","date_gmt":"2024-02-19T17:59:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wilraps.nl\/?p=496"},"modified":"2024-02-19T19:14:10","modified_gmt":"2024-02-19T18:14:10","slug":"yes-people-are-entangled-with-myriad-things-in-their-lives-but-that-makes-many-of-us-unaware-of-government-censorship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wilraps.nl\/?p=496","title":{"rendered":"Yes people are entangled with myriad things in their lives but that makes many of us unaware of government censorship"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"496\" class=\"elementor elementor-496\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-85ab937 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"85ab937\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7811fee elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7811fee\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Mike Benz was the <a href=\"https:\/\/2017-2021.state.gov\/biographies\/michael-a-benz\/\">Deputy Assissant Secretary for Internal Communications and Information Policy<\/a> during the Trump presidency and today is the <a href=\"https:\/\/foundationforfreedomonline.com\/about\/\">founder and executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online<\/a> which is a watchdog dedicated to restoring the promise of a free and open internet (quote from this website).<\/p><p>Tucker Carlson interviewed Mike Benz about the ominous directional trend where authorities\/governments trying to thwarth the internet with all its open character as much as possible. Disinformation is heavily under the influence of inflation of definition. Not so long ago the noun used to refer to false information, deliberately misleading or biased information or propaganda &#8230; but since social media really showed a much higher participation rate than before 2016 and the cable tv influence showed a decline in usage for a number of reasons like a dearth of sincerity in reporting &#8230; the <em>normal tools of corralling the people<\/em> via narratives seem to have lost its effectiveness so what now?\u00a0<br \/>Well what if the citizenry is curtailed expressing their first amendmend right and nibble away rights by inflating a more-and-more used disinformation tool mandated by the legislative and executive branch in D.C. to a degree where people expressing messages contradicting narratives from leaders in favor of suppressing free expression of ideas will experience their first amendment rights are slowed down or even worse coming to a halt.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<\/p><p>What is commonly not well understood by the public is that intelligence agencies are covertly (it&#8217;s known but not disseminated) influencing journalists from big news corporations i.e. <em>the corporate media<\/em> via &#8220;<em>leaking<\/em>&#8221; which is nothing short of planting news narratives into the public sphere to manipulate society&#8217;s opinion on matters.\u00a0<\/p><p>Under the video the whole word-for-word transcript of the conversation.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-63399a7 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"63399a7\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b1f1fb9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"b1f1fb9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Ep. 75 The national security state is the main driver of censorship and election interference in the United States. &quot;What I\u2019m describing is military rule,&quot; says Mike Benz. &quot;It\u2019s the inversion of democracy.&quot; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/hDTEjAf89T\">pic.twitter.com\/hDTEjAf89T<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TuckerCarlson\/status\/1758529993280205039?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 16, 2024<\/a><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-de0d206 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"de0d206\" data-element_type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c1b3758 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c1b3758\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>This transcription was generated automatically so, alas, flaws in grammar are to be expected.<\/p><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">The defining fact of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the United States <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">is freedom of speech. To the extent this country is actually exceptional, it&#8217;s because we have the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">First Amendment <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">to the Bill of Rights. We have&#8230; Freedom of conscience. We can say what we really think. There&#8217;s no hate speech exception to that. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Just because you hate what somebody else thinks, you cannot force that person to be quiet because we&#8217;re citizens, not slaves. But that right, that foundational right that makes this country what it is, that right from which all other rights flow, is going away at high speed in the face of censorship.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, modern censorship bears no resemblance to previous censorship regimes in previous countries in previous eras. Our censorship is affected on the basis of fights against disinformation and malinformation. And the key thing to know about these is they&#8217;re everywhere. And of course, they <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Have no reference at all to whether what you&#8217;re saying is true or not. In other words, you can say something that is factually accurate and consistent with your own conscience. And in previous versions of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Americ <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">you had an absolute right to say those things. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But because someone doesn&#8217;t like them or because they&#8217;re inconvenient to whatever plan the people in power have, they can be denounced as disinformation. And you could be stripped of your right to express them, either in person or online. In fact, expressing these things can become a criminal act and is. And it&#8217;s important to know, by the way, that this is not just the private sector doing this. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">These efforts are being directed by the<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">U.S. g<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">overnment, which you pay for and at least theoretically own. It&#8217;s your government. But they&#8217;re stripping your rights at very high speed. Most people understand this intuitively, but they don&#8217;t know how it happens. How does censorship happen? What are the mechanics of it?<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Mike Benz is, we can say with some confidence, the expert in the world on how this happens. Mike Benz had the cyber portfolio at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. He&#8217;s now executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online. And we&#8217;re going to have a conversation with him about a very specific kind of censorship.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">By the way, we can&#8217;t recommend strongly enough. If you want to know how this happens, Mike Benz, B-E-N-Z, is the man to read. But today we just want to talk about a specific kind of censorship and that censorship that emanates from the fabled military industrial complex, from our defense industry and the foreign policy establishment in <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Washington<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">That&#8217;s significant now because we&#8217;re on the cusp of a global war. And so you can expect censorship to increase dramatically. And so with that, here is Mike Benz, Executive Director of Foundation for Freedom Online. <\/span><\/div><p>\u00a0<\/p><hr \/><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Mike, thanks so much for joining us. And I just can&#8217;t overstate to our audience how exhaustive and comprehensive your knowledge is on this topic.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It&#8217;s almost unbelievable. And so if you could just walk us through how the foreign policy establishment and defense contractors and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DOD<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> and just the whole cluster, the constellation of defense-related, publicly funded institutions. Strip from us our freedom of speech.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">03:11<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Sure. You know, one of the easiest ways to actually start the story is really with the story of Internet freedom. And it switched from Internet freedom to Internet censorship because free speech on the Internet was an instrument of statecraft almost from the outset of the privatization of the Internet in 1991. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">We quickly discovered through the efforts of<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Defense Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and our intelligence services that people were using the Internet to congregate on blogs and forums. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And free speech was championed more than anybody by the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and our sort of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> cut-out NGO blob architecture as a way to support dissident groups around the world in order to help them overthrow authoritarian governments as they were sort of billed. So essentially, the Internet-free speech allowed kind of i<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">nsta-regime change operations to be able to facilitate the foreign policy establishment&#8217;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">agenda. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Google<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> is a great example of this.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Google <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">began as a <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">DARPA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">grant by <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Larry Page <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Sergey Brin <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">when they were <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Stanford <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">PhDs, and they got their funding as part of a joint <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8211;<\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">NSA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">program to chart how, quote, birds of a feather flock together online through search engine aggregation. And then one year later, they launched <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Google <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and then became a military contractor quickly.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Thereafter, they got Google Maps by purchasing a <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">satellite software, essentially. And the ability to track. To use free speech on the internet as a way to circumvent state control over media in places like <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Central Asia <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">or all around the world was seen as a way to be able to do what used to be done out of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">station houses or out of embassies or consulates in a way that was totally turbocharged. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And all of the internet free speech technology was initially created by our national security state. Vpns, virtual private networks to hide your IP address,<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Tor<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the dark web to be able to buy and sell goods anonymously, end-to-end encrypted chats. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">All of these things were created initially as <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DARPA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">projects or as joint <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA-<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NSA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">projects to be able to help intelligence-backed groups to overthrow governments that were causing a problem to the Clinton administration or the Bush administration or the Obama administration <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And this plan worked magically from about 1991 until about 2014 when there began to be an about-face on Internet freedom and its utility.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, the high watermark of the sort of Internet-free speech moment was the Arab Spring in 2011, 2012, when you had this one-by-one, all of the adversary governments of the Obama administration. Egypt, Tunisia, all began to be toppled by <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">revolutions and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">revolutions. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And you had <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">working very closely with the social media companies to be able to keep social media online during those periods. There was a famous phone call from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Google<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Jared Cohen <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to not do their scheduled maintenance so that the preferred opposition group in Iran would be able to use <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">To win that election. So it was an instrument, free speech was an instrument of statecraft from the national security state to begin with. All of that architecture, all the NGOs, the relationships between the tech companies and the national security state had been long established for freedom.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">In 2014, after the coup in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukraine<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, there was an unexpected counter-coup where <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Crimea <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and the Donbass broke away. And they broke away with essentially a military backstop that <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> was highly unprepared for at the time. They had one last Hail Mary chance, which was the <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Crimea <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">annexation vote in 2014. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And when the hearts and minds of the people of<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Crimea <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">voted to join <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Russian Federation<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, that was the last straw for the concept of free speech on the Internet in the eyes of <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. As they saw it, the fundamental nature of war changed at that moment.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">And <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">at that point declared something that they first called the Gerasimov Doctrine, which was named after this Russian military general who they claimed made a speech that the fundamental nature of war has changed. You don&#8217;t need to win military skirmishes to take over <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Central and Eastern Europe<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. All you need to do is control the media and the social media ecosystem because that&#8217;s what controls elections. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And if you simply get the right administration into power, they control the military. So it&#8217;s infinitely cheaper than conducting a military war to simply conduct an organized political influence operation over social media and legacy media. An industry had been created that spanned the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">British <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ministry of Defense, and Brussels into a &#8230; o<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">rganized political warfare outfit, essentially infrastructure that was created, initially stationed in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Germany<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> and in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Central and Eastern Europe<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, to create psychological buffer zones, basically to create the ability to have the military work with the social media companies to censor Russian propaganda or to censor domestic right-wing populist groups in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> who were rising in political power at the time because of the migrant crisis.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So you had the systematic targeting. By our State Department, by our IC, by the <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, of groups like <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Germany<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">AFD<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Alternative for Deutschland <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">there, and for groups in <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Estonia<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Latvia<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Lithuania<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. Now, when <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Brexit <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">happened in 2016, that was this crisis moment where suddenly they didn&#8217;t have to worry just about <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Central and Eastern Europe <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">anymore.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It was coming westward, this idea of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russian <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">control over hearts and minds. And so That was, <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Brexit <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was June 2016, the very next month at <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Warsaw Conference<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Nato <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">formally amended its charter to expressly commit to hybrid warfare as this new <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">NATO <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">capacity. So they went from, you know, basically 70 years of tanks to this explicit capacity building for censoring tweets that they were deemed to be <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russian <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">proxies. And again, it&#8217;s not just Russian propaganda. These were now <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Brexit <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">groups, or groups like Matteo Salvini in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Italy<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, or in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Greece<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, or in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Germany<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, or in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Spain <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">with the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Vox Party<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And now at the time, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was publishing white papers saying that the biggest threat <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">faces is not actually a military invasion from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It&#8217;s losing domestic elections across <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to all these right-wing populist groups who, because they were mostly working class movements. Were campaigning on cheap Russian energy at a time when the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. w<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">as pressuring this energy diversification policy. And so they made the argument, after <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Brexit<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, now the entire rules-based international order would collapse unless the military took control over media. <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Because Brexit would give rise to Frexit in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">France <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">with <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Marine Le Pen<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, to Spexit in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Spain <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">with the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Vox Party<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, to Italexit in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Italy<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, to Grexit in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Germany<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, to Grexit in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Greece<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. The <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">would come apart, so <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">would be killed without a single bullet being fired. And then not only that, now that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is gone, now there&#8217;s no enforcement arm for the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">International Monetary Fund <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">IMF <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">or the World Bank.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So now the financial stakeholders who depend on the battering ram of the national security state would basically be helpless against governments around the world. So from their perspective, if the military did not begin to censor the Internet. Every all of the democratic institutions and infrastructure that gave rise to the modern world after <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">World War Two <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">would collapse. So you can imagine that.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">11:07<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Let me ask you to pause right there.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\">MB<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">11:09<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">The 2016 election.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">11:11<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So you just told a remarkable story that I&#8217;ve never heard anybody explain as lucidly and crisply as you just did. But did anyone at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">or anyone at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department p<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">ause for a moment and say, wait a second, we&#8217;ve just identified our new enemy as democracy within our own countries. I think that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re saying. They feared that the people, the citizens of their own countries would get their way.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And they went to war against that.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">11:35<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Yes. Now, you know, there&#8217;s a rich history of this dating back to the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Cold War<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. You know, the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Cold War <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">was essentially a similar struggle for hearts and minds of people, especially in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Central and Eastern Europe <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, you know, in these sort of, you know, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Soviet <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">buffer zones. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And, you know, starting in 1948, the national security state was really established then. You know, you had the 1947 Act, which established <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Central Intelligence Agency<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. You had this new world order that had been created with all these international institutions. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And you had the 1948 UN Declaration on Human Rights, which forbid the territorial acquisition by military force. So you can no longer run a traditional military occupation government in the way that we could in 1898, for example, when we took the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Philippines<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Everything had to be done through a sort of political legitimization process. Whereby there&#8217;s some ratification from the hearts and minds of people within the country. Now, often that involves simply puppet politicians who are groomed as emerging leaders by our State Department. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But the battle for hearts and minds had been something that we had been giving ourselves a long moral license leash, if you will. Since 1948, one of the godfathers of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">George Kennan<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, 12 days after we rigged the Italian election in 1948, by stuffing ballot boxes and working with the mob, published a memo called The Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare, where he said, listen. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It&#8217;s a mean old world out there. We at the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">just rigged the Italian election. We had to do it because if the communists won, maybe there&#8217;d never be another election in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Italy <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">again<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">13:17 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But it&#8217;s really effective, guys. We need a department of dirty tricks to be able to do this around the world. And it&#8217;s essentially a new social contract we&#8217;re constructing with the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">American <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">people because this is not the way we&#8217;ve conducted diplomacy before. But we are now forbidden from using <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the War Department.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> In 1948, they also renamed <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the War Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Defense Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So again, as part of this diplomatic onslaught for political control, rather than it looking like it&#8217;s overt military control. But essentially what ended up happening there is we created this foreign domestic firewall, we said, that we have a department of dirty tricks to be able to rig elections, to be able to control media, to be able to meddle<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> in the internal affairs of every other plot of dirt in the country, but this sort of sacred dirt on which the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">American <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">homeland sits, they are not allowed to operate there. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Defense Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">are all expressly forbidden from operating on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">soil. Of course, this is so far from the case, it&#8217;s not even funny, but that&#8217;s because of a number of laundering tricks that they&#8217;ve developed over 70 years of doing this. But essentially, there was no moral quandary at first.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">With respect to the creation of the censorship industry, when it started out in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Germany <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Lithuania <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Latvia <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Estonia <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Sweden <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Finland<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, there began to be a more diplomatic debate about it after <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Brexit<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. And then it became full throttle when Trump was elected.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">And what little resistance there was was washed over by the rise and saturation of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russiagate <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, which basically allowed them to not have to deal with the moral ambiguities of censoring your own people. Because if Trump was a Russian asset, you no longer really had a traditional free speech issue. It was a national security issue. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It was only after <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russiagate <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">died in July 2019 when <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Robert Mueller <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">basically choked on the stand for three hours and revealed he had absolutely nothing after two and a half years of investigation, that the foreign to domestic switcheroo took place where they took all of this censorship architecture spanning <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DOD<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DOJ<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and then the thousands of government-funded NGO and private sector mercenary firms were all basically transited from a foreign predicate, a Russian disinformation predicate, to a democracy predicate by saying that disinformation is not just a threat when it comes from the<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russians<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It&#8217;s actually an intrinsic threat to democracy itself. And so by that, they were able to launder the entire democracy promotion regime change toolkit just in time for the 2020 election.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">16:02 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I mean, it&#8217;s almost beyond belief that this has happened. I mean, my own father worked for the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Government in this business, in the information war against <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Soviet Union<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And, you know, was it? Big part of that. And the idea that any of those tools would be turned against a<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">merican <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">citizens by the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. g<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">overnment was, I think, I want to think, was absolutely unthinkable in, say, 1988.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And you&#8217;re saying that it&#8217;s, there really hasn&#8217;t been anyone who&#8217;s raised objections and it&#8217;s just, it&#8217;s absolutely turned inward to manipulate and rig our own elections as we would in, say, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Latvia<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">?<\/span><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">16:37 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Yeah. Well, as soon as the democracy predicate was established, you had this professional class of professional regime change artists and operatives. That is, the same people who argued that, you know, we need to bring democracy to Yugoslavia and that&#8217;s the predicate for getting rid of, you know, Milosevic or any other country around the world where we b<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">asically overthrow governments in order to preserve democracy. Well, if the democracy threat is homegrown now, then that becomes, you know, then suddenly these people all have new jobs moving on the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. s<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ide. And I can go through a million examples of that. But one thing on what you just mentioned, which is that, you know, from their perspective, they just weren&#8217;t ready for the Internet.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">2016 Was really the first time that social media had reached such maturity that it began to eclipse legacy media. I mean, this was a long time coming. I think folks saw this building from 2006 through 2016. You know, internet 1.0 didn&#8217;t even have social media. From 1991 to 2004, there was no social media at all. 2004, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">came out, 2005 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. 2006 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">YouTube. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">2007 the smartphone.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And in that initial period of social media, nobody was getting subscriberships at the level where they actually competed with legacy news media. But over the course of being, you know, so initially even these dissident voices within the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, even though they may have been loud in moments, they never reached 30 million followers. They never reached, you know, a billion impressions a year type thing.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">An uncensored, mature ecosystem allowed citizen journalists and independent voices to be able to out-compete legacy news media. This induced a massive crisis both in our military and in our <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and intelligence services. I&#8217;ll give you a great example of this. In 2019, at a meeting of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the German Marshall Fund<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, which is an institution that goes back to the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">basically. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I don&#8217;t want to say bribe, but essentially the economic soft power projection in<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Europe <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">as part of the reconstruction of <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">European <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">governments after <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">World War II <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to be able to essentially pay them with <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Marshall Fund <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">dollars, and then in return they basically were under our thumb in terms of how they reconstructed. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the German Marshall Fund<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> held a meeting in 2019. They held a million of these, frankly. But where a four-star general &#8230; that got up on the panel and and said that uh &#8230; t<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">hat what happens he posed the question what happens to the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">u.s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">military, what happens to the national security state when the<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">new york times <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is reduced to a medium-sized <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">facebook-<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">page And he posed this thought experiment as an example of we&#8217;ve had these gatekeepers. We&#8217;ve had these bumper cars on democracy in the form of a &#8230; <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">a century-old relationship with legacy media institutions. I mean, our mainstream media is not in any shape and form, even from its outset, independent from the national security state, from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the War Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">You know, you had the initial, all of the initial broadcast news companies, NBC, ABC, and CBS, were all created by <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Office of War Information <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Veterans from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the War Department&#8217;s <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">effort in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">World War II<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. You had these Operation Mockingbird relationships from the 1950s to the 1970s. Those continued through the use of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the National Endowment for Democracy <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and the privatization of intelligence capacities in the 1980s under Reagan.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">There&#8217;s all sorts of<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA-<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">reading room memos you can read, even on <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.gov, about those continued media relations throughout the 1990s. And so you always had this backdoor relationship between The Washington Post, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">The New York Times<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And all of the major broadcast media corporations. By the way, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rupert Murdoch <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and Fox are part of this as well. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rupert Murdoch<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> was actually part of the National Endowment for Democracy Coalition in 1983 when it was formed as a way to do <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">operations in an aboveboard way after the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Democrats <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">were so ticked off at the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">for manipulating student movements in the 1970s.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But essentially, there was no <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">intermediary to random citizen journalist accounts. There was no <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">backstop. You couldn&#8217;t get a story killed. You couldn&#8217;t have this favors for favors relationship. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You couldn&#8217;t promise access to some random person with 700,000 followers who&#8217;s got an opinion on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Syrian <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">gas. And so this induced, and this was not a problem for the initial period of social media from 2006 to 2014, because there were never dissident groups that were big enough to be able to have a mature enough ecosystem on their own.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">And all of the victories on social media had gone in the way of where the money was, which was from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Defense Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and the intelligence services. But then as that maturity happened, you now had this situation after the 2016 election where they said, OK, now the entire international order might come undone.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">70 Years of unified foreign policy from Truman until Trump are now about to be broken. And we need the same &#8230; analog control systems we had to be able to put bumper cars on bad stories or bad political movements through legacy media relationships and contacts, we now need to establish and consolidate within the social media companies.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And the initial predicate for that was <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russiagate<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. But then after <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russiagate <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">died and they used a simple democracy promotion predicate, then it gave rise to this multi-billion dollar censorship industry that joins together the military-industrial complex, the government, and the government.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">The private sector, civil society organizations, and then this vast cobweb of media allies and professional fact checker groups that serve as this sort of sentinel class that surveys everywhere on the internet.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">23:34 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So can you give us, and thank you again for this. Almost unbelievable explanation of why this is happening. Can you give us an example of how it happens? How, and just pick one among I know countless examples of how the national security state lies to the population, censors the truth in real life.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">23:56<\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Yeah so you know we have this <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> outfit called <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Global Engagement Center <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">which was created by a guy named <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> who described himself as Obama&#8217;s propagandist in chief. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">He was the undersecretary for public affairs, which is essentially the liaison office role between <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> and the mainstream media. So this is basically the exact nexus where government talking points about war or about diplomacy or statecraft get synchronized with mainstream media.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">24:28 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">May I add something to that? I know <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. He was at one point a journalist. And <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">has made public arguments against <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the First Amendment<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> and against free speech.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">24:38 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Oh, yeah, he wrote a whole book on it. And he published an op-ed in 2019. He wrote a whole book on it. And he made the argument that we just went over here, that essentially the Constitution was not prepared for the Internet and we need to get rid of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the First Amendment<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> accordingly. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And he described himself as a free speech absolutist when he was the managing editor of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Time <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">magazine. And even when he was in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">under Obama, he started some&#8230; called <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Global Engagement Center<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which was the first government censorship operation within the federal government.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">But it was foreign facing, so it was OK. Now, at the time, they used the homegrown <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ISIS-<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">predicate threat for this. And so it was very hard to argue against the idea of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">having this formal coordination partnership with every major tech platform in the <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">U.S. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Because at the time there were these <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">ISIS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">attacks. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And we were told that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ISIS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was recruiting on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And so <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Global Engagement Center <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was established essentially to be a <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">entanglement with the social media companies to basically put bumper cars on their ability to platform accounts. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And one of the things they did is they created a <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">new technology.<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It&#8217;s called natural language processing. It is an artificial intelligence machine learning ability. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">To create meaning out of words in order to map everything that everyone says on the internet and create this vast topography of how communities are organized online, who the major influences are, what they&#8217;re talking about, what narratives are emerging or trending, and to be able to create this sort of network graph in order to know who to target and how information moves through an ecosystem. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And so they began plotting the language, the prefixes, the suffixes, the popular&#8230; terms, the slogans that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ISIS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">folks were talking about on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">When Trump won the election in 2016, everyone who worked at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">was expecting these promotions to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the White House <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">National Security Council <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">under <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Hillary Clinton<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, who I should remind viewers was also Secretary of State under Obama, actually ran <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But the folks were all expecting promotions on November 8, 2016 were unceremoniously put out of jobs by a guy who was a 20-to-1 underdog, according to<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">New York Times <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the day of the election. And when that happened, these <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">State Department<\/span><\/div><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> folks took their special set of skills, coercing governments for sanctions. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">led the effort to sanction <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">over the Crimea annexation in 2014. These <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">diplomats did an international roadshow to pressure <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">European <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">governments to pass censorship laws, to censor the right-wing populist groups in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And as a boomerang impact to censor populist groups who were affiliated in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. So you had folks who went from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">directly, for example, to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which was this major facilitator between government-to-government censorship. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The Atlantic Council<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> is a group that was one of Biden&#8217;s biggest political backers. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">They bill themselves as <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s think tank. So they represent the political census of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And in many respects, when <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> has civil society actions that they want to be coordinated to synchronize with military action in a region, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">essentially is deployed to consensus build and make that political action happen within a region of interest to <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">has seven <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">directors on its board. A lot of people don&#8217;t even know that seven <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">directors are still alive. Let alone all concentrated on the board of a single organization that&#8217;s kind of the heavyweight in the censorship industry. They get annual funding from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Department of Defense<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">cutouts like <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the National Endowment for Democracy<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The Atlantic Council <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">in January 2017 moved immediately to pressure <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">European <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">governments to pass censorship laws to create a transatlantic flank attack on free speech in exactly the way that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">essentially called for to have the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. m<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">imic <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">European <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">censorship laws. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">One of the ways they did this was by getting <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Germany <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to pass something called <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NetzDG <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">in August 2017, which was essentially kicked off the era of automated censorship in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. What <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NetzDG <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">required was unless social media platforms wanted to pay a $54 million fine for each instance of speech, each post left up on their platform for more than 48 hours that had been identified as hate speech, they would be f<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ined basically into bankruptcy when you aggregate 54 million over tens of thousands of posts per day. And the safe haven around that was if they deployed artificial intelligence-based censorship technologies, which had been, again, created by <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DARPA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to take on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ISIS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, to be able to scan and ban speech automatically.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">And this gave, you know, I call these <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">weapons of mass deletion<\/span>. These are essentially the ability to censor tens of millions of posts. With just a few lines of code and the way this is done is by aggregating basically, the field of censorship science fuses together two disparate groups of study, if you will. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">There&#8217;s the sort of political and social scientists who are the sort of thought leaders of what should be censored. And then there are the sort of quants, if you will. These are the programmers, the computational data scientists, computational linguistics. Every university, there&#8217;s over 60 universities now who get federal government grants to do this censorship work and the censorship preparation work.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Where what they do is they create these code books of the language that people use, the same way they did for <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ISIS<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. They did this, for example, with <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">COVID<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. They created these <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">COVID<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> lexicons of what dissident groups were saying about mandates, about masks, about vaccines, about high-profile individuals like <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Tony Fauci <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">or <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Peter Daszak or any of these others protected VIP individuals whose reputations had to be protected online. And they created these code books. They broke things down into narratives.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">The Atlantic Council<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, for example, was a part of this government-funded consortium, something called the Virality Project, which mapped 66 different narratives that dissidents were talking about around <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">COVID<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, everything from <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">COVID <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">origins to vaccine efficacy. And then they broke down these 66 claims i<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">nto all the different factual subclaims. And then they plugged these into these essentially machine learning models to be able to have a constant world heat map of what everybody was saying about <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">COVID<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And whenever something started to trend that was bad for what the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">wanted or was bad for what <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Tony Fauci <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">wanted, they were able to take down tens of millions of posts. They did this. In the 2020 election with mail-in ballots. It was the same groups. Wait, wait, wait.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">31:51 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Let me ask you. I&#8217;m sorry. I just got to have to. There&#8217;s so much here, and it&#8217;s so shocking. So you&#8217;re saying the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, our <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. The <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. Department of Defense<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> censored Americans during the 2020 election cycle?<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">32:07 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Yes, they did this. Oh, they did this through the, so <strong>there&#8217;s the two most censored events in human history, I would argue to date, are the 2020 election and the <\/strong><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">COVID-19<\/span><\/strong><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"><strong> pandemic<\/strong>. And I&#8217;ll explain, you know, how I arrived there. So the 2020 election was determined by mail-in ballots. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And I&#8217;m not weighing into the substance of whether mail-in ballots were or were not a legitimate or safe and reliable form of voting. That&#8217;s a completely independent&#8230; Topic from my perspective than the censorship issue one. But the censorship of mail-in ballots is really one of the most extraordinary stories in our American history, I would argue.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">What happened was is you had this plot within <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Department of Homeland Security<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. Now, this gets back to what we were talking about with <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Global Engagement Center<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. You had this group within the Atlanta Council and the foreign policy establishment, which began arguing in 2017 for the need for a permanent administration.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Domestic censorship government office to serve as a quarterback for what they called a whole of society counter misinformation counter disinformation alliance that just means censorship the counter misdisinfo but the whole of their whole society model explicitly proposed that that we need every single set within society to be mobilized in a whole of society effort to stop misinformation online it was that much of an existential threat to democracy And so, but they fixated in 2017 that it had to be centered within the government because only the government would have the clout and the coercive threat powers and the perceived authority to be able to tell the social media companies what to do, to be able to summon a government-funded NGO swarm to create that media surround sound, to be able to arm an extra-turfed army of fact-checkers, and to be able to liaise and connect all these different <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">censorship industry actors into a cohesive, unified whole. And <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> initially proposed with this blueprint called Forward Defense. It&#8217;s not offense. It&#8217;s Forward Defense, guys. They initially proposed running this out of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department&#8217;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Global Engagement Center <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">because they had so many insets there who were so effective at censorship under <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">&#8216;s steed and under the Obama administration.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But they said, oh, we&#8217;re not going to be able to get away with that because we don&#8217;t really have a national security predicate. And it&#8217;s supposed to be foreign-facing, we can&#8217;t really use that hook unless we have a sort of national security one. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Then they contemplated parking it at the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And they said, well, actually, there&#8217;s two reasons we can&#8217;t do that. The <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is foreign-facing, and we can&#8217;t really establish a counterintelligence threat to bring it home domestically. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Also, we&#8217;re going to need essentially tens of thousands of people involved in this operation, spanning this whole society model. You can&#8217;t really run a clandestine operation that way. So they said, okay, well, what about the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">? They said, well, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">would be great. It&#8217;s domestic. But the problem is, is the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is supposed to be the intelligence arm of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Justice Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And what we&#8217;re dealing with here are not acts of lawbreaking. It&#8217;s basically support for Trump. Or if a left-wing populist had risen to power like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Bernie Sanders <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">or <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Jeremy Corbyn<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, I have no doubt they would have done, in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">UK<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, they would have done the same thing to him there.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">They targeted <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Jeremy Corbyn <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and other left-wing populist <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">skeptical groups in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. But in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S.<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> it was all Trump. And so essentially what they said is, well, the only other domestic intelligence equity we have in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. b<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">esides the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So we are going to essentially take the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">&#8216;s power to rig and bribe foreign media organizations, which is a power they&#8217;ve had since the day they were born in 1947, and we&#8217;re going to combine that with the power, with the domestic jurisdiction of the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">by putting it at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. So <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">was basically deputized.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It was empowered through this obscure little cybersecurity agency to have the combined powers that the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">has abroad with the jurisdiction of the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">at home. And the way they did this, how did an obscure little cybersecurity agency get this power, was they did a funny little series of switcheroos. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So this little thing called <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CISA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, they didn&#8217;t call it <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Disinformation Governance Board<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, they didn&#8217;t call it the censorship agency. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">They gave it an obscure little name that no one would notice called<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. Its founder said, we care about security so much it&#8217;s in our name twice.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Everybody sort of closed their eyes and pretended that&#8217;s what it was. But it was created by active <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Congress <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">in 2018 because of the perceived threat that <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">had hacked the 2016 election, had physically hacked it. And so we needed the cybersecurity power to be able to<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> deal with that. And essentially on the heels of a <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">memo on January 6, 2017, and a same-day <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">executive order on January 6, 2017, arguing that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">had interfered in the 2016 election, and a <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">mandate saying that elections are now critical infrastructure, you have to be able to deal with that.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">This new power within <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">to say that cyber security attacks on elections are now our purview. And then they did two cute things. One, they said mis, dis, and malinformation online are a form of cyber security attack. They are a cyber attack because they are happening online. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And they said, well, actually, Russian disinformation is, we&#8217;re actually protecting democracy in elections. We don&#8217;t need a Russian predicate after<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Russiagate <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">died.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So just like that, you had this cybersecurity agency be able to legally make the argument that your tweets about mail-in ballots, if you undermine public faith and confidence in them as a legitimate form of voting, you were now conducting a cyber attack on <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S.<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> Critical infrastructure. By articulating misinformation on <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. And just like that, now what they did then is they- Wait.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">38:02 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So in other words, complaining about election fraud is the same as taking down our power grid.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">38:09 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Yes, you could literally be on your toilet seat at 9.30 on a Thursday night and tweet, I think that mail-in ballots are illegitimate. And you were essentially then caught up in the crosshairs of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Department of Homeland Security <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">classifying you as conducting a cyber attack on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. c<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ritical infrastructure because you were doing misinformation online in the cyber realm, and misinformation is a cyber attack. On democracy when it undermines public faith and confidence in our democratic elections and our democratic institutions. They would end up going far beyond that.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">They would actually define democratic institutions as being another thing that was a cyber security attack to undermine. And lo and behold, the mainstream media is considered a democratic institution. That would come later. What ended up happening was in the advance of the 2020 election, starting in April of 2020, although this goes back before.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">You had this essentially never Trump neocon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Republican <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">working with essentially <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><br \/><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> on the national security side and essentially the DNC, if you will, to use <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">as the launching point for a government coordinated mass censorship campaign spanning every single social media platform on Earth in order to pre-censor the ability. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">To dispute the legitimacy of mail-in ballots. And here&#8217;s how they did this. They aggregated four different institutions,<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Stanford University<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the University of Washington<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, a company called Grafica, and <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Atlantic Council<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. Now, all four of these institutions, the centers within them, were essentially <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">cutouts.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You had at <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Stanford Internet Observatory<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, it was actually run by <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael McFaul<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. If you know <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael McFaul<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, he was the U.S. Ambassador t<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">o <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">under the Obama administration, and he personally authored a seven-step playbook for how to successfully orchestrate a color revolution. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">That is, and part of that involved maintaining total control over media and social media, juicing up the civil society outfits, calling elections illegitimate in order to, now mind you, all of these people were professional Russiagators and professional election delegitimizers in 2016. And then, well, I&#8217;ll get to that in a sec.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Stanford University<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, nominally the Stanford Area Observatory, under <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael McFaul<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, was run by Alex Damos, who was formerly a <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">executive who coordinated with ODNI with respect to <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russiagate<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, taking down Russian propaganda at <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. So this is another liaison, essentially, to the national security state.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And under Alex Damos at Stanford Area Observatory was Rene DiResta, who started her career in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and wrote the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Senate Intelligence Committee <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">report on Russian disinformation. And there&#8217;s a lot more there that I&#8217;ll get to another time.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">But the next institution was <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the University of Washington<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, which is essentially the Bill Gates University in <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Seattle<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, who is headed by <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Kate Starbird<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, who is basically three generations of military brass, who got her Ph.D. In crisis informatics, essentially doing social media surveillance for the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and getting <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Darpa <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">funding and working essentially with the national security state, then repurposed to take on mail-in ballots. The third firm, Grafica, got $7 million in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">grants and got their start as part of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s Minerva Initiative. The <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Minerva Initiative is the psychological warfare research center of the<\/span><\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Pentagon<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">This group was doing social media spying. And narrative mapping for the <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">until the 2016 election happened, and then were repurposed into a partnership with<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Department of Homeland Security <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to censor 22 million Trump tweets, pro-Trump tweets about mail-in ballots. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And then the fourth institution, as I mentioned, was<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Atlantic Council <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, who&#8217;s got seven <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">directors on the board. So one after another, it is exactly what Ben Rhodes described during the Obama era as the blob. The foreign policy establishment, it&#8217;s <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the Defense Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">,<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, or the <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">every single time.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And, of course, this was because they were threatened by Trump&#8217;s foreign policy. And so while much of the censorship looks like it&#8217;s coming domestically, it&#8217;s actually by our foreign-facing Department of Dirty Tricks color revolution blob, who are professional government toppers, who were then basically descended on the 2020 election.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, they did this. They explicitly said the head of this election integrity partnership On tape, and my foundation clipped them, and it&#8217;s been played before <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Congress<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, and it&#8217;s a part of the <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Missouri <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">v. Biden lawsuit now. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But they explicitly said on tape that they were set up to do what the government was banned from doing itself. And then they articulated a multi-step framework in order to coerce all the tech companies to take censorship actions. They said on tape the tech companies would not have done but for their pressure w<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">hich involved using threats of government force because they were the deputized arm of the government. They had a formal partnership with the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. They were able to use <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s proprietary domestic disinformation switchboard to immediately talk to top brass at all the tech companies for takedowns.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And they bragged on tape about how they got the tech companies to all systematically adopt a new terms of service speech violation ban called delegitimization, which meant any tweet, any <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">YouTube <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">video, any <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Facebook <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">post, any <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">TikTok <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">video, any Discord posts, any Twitch video, anything on the Internet that undermine public faith and confidence in the use of mail-in ballots or early voting drop boxes or ballot tabulation issues on Election Day was a prima facie terms of service violation policy under this new delegitimization policy that they only adopted because of pass-through government pressure.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">From the Election Integrity Partnership, which they bragged about on tape, including the grid that they used to do this, and simultaneously invoking threats of government breaking them up or government stopping doing favors to the tech companies unless they did this, as well as inducing crisis PR by working with their media allies. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And they said the government, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, could not do that themselves, and so they set up this basically constellation of <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and IC networks to run this. Pre-censorship campaign, which by their own math had 22 million tweets on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">alone. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And mind you, they did this on 15 platforms. This is hundreds of millions of posts, which were all scanned and banned or throttled so that they could not be amplified or they existed in a sort of limited state purgatory or had these frictions affixed to them in the form of fact-checking labels where you couldn&#8217;t actually click through the thing or you had to, it was an inconvenience to be able to share it.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, they did this seven months before the election because at the time they were worried about the perceived legitimacy of a Biden victory in the case of a so-called red mirage, blue shift event. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">They knew the only way that Biden would win mathematically was through the disproportionate <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Democrat <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">use of mail-in ballots. They knew there would be a crisis because it was going to look extremely weird if Trump looked like he won by seven states. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And then three days later, it comes out actually the election switch. I mean, that that would put the election crisis of the Bush Gore election on a level of steroids that the national security state said, well, the public will not be prepared for. So what we need to do is we need to in advance, we need to pre-censor the ability to even question legitimacy. This took out.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">45:59 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Wait, wait, may I ask you to pause right there? So what you&#8217;re saying is what you&#8217;re suggesting is. They knew the outcome of the election seven months before it was held.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div>\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">46:10 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Thank you. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Thank you. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It looks very bad. Certainly.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">46:19 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">That&#8217;s it. Yes, Mike, it does look very bad.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1peese0 r-11c0sde\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-1grxjyw r-zz5t5d r-37tt59 r-1ocx34b r-qklmqi r-14gqq1x r-qn3fzs\" dir=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">46:24 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You know, and especially when you combine this with the fact that this is right on the heels of the impeachment, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">led <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">led impeachment. You know, it was Eric C. Morella from the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and it was the Vindmans from the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">who led the impeachment of Trump in late 2019 over, you know, an alleged phone call around withholding <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukraine <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">aid. This same network, which came straight out of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">hybrid warfare.<\/span><\/div><div dir=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Military censorship network created after the first <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukraine <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">crisis in 2014, were the lead architects of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukraine <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">impeachment in 2019, and then essentially came back on steroids as part of the 2020 election censorship operation. But from their perspective, I mean, It certainly looks like the perfect crime. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">These were the people <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">at the time had actually federalized much of the national election administration through this January 6, 2017 executive order from outgoing Obama <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">head Jed Johnson, which essentially wrapped all 50 states up into a formal <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">partnership.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">So <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">was simultaneously in charge of the administration of the election in many respects. And the censorship of anyone who challenged the administration of the election. This is like, you know, putting essentially the defendant of a trial as the judge and jury of the trial.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">47:55 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But you&#8217;re not describing democracy. I mean, you&#8217;re describing a country in which democracy is impossible.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">48:00<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-1xfd6ze r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">What I&#8217;m essentially describing is military rule. I mean, this is I mean, what&#8217;s happened with the rise of the censorship industry. Is a total inversion of the idea of democracy itself. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You know, democracy sort of draws its legitimacy from the idea that it is ruled by consent of the people being ruled. That is, it&#8217;s not really being ruled by an overlord because the government is actually just our will expressed by our consent with who we vote for. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The whole push after the 2016 election and after <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Brexit<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"> and after a couple of other social media-run elections that went the wrong way from what <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">wanted, like the 2016 <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Philippines <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">election, was to completely invert everything that we described as being the underpinnings of a democratic society in order to deal with the threat of free speech on the Internet.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">And what they essentially said is, we need to redefine democracy from being about the will of the voters to being about the sanctity of democratic institutions. And who are the democratic institutions? Oh, it&#8217;s us. You know, it&#8217;s the military. It&#8217;s <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">. It&#8217;s the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">IMF <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">and the World Bank. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It&#8217;s the mainstream media. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It is the NGOs. Of course, these NGOs are largely <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> funded or IC funded. It&#8217;s essentially all of the elite establishments.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">That were under threat from the rise of domestic populism that declared their own consensus to be the new definition of democracy. Because if you define democracy as being the strength of democratic institutions rather than a focus on the will of the voters, then what you&#8217;re left with is essentially democracy is just the consensus building architecture within the within the democratic institutions themselves.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And from their perspective, that takes a lot of work. I mean, the amount of work these people do, I mean, for example, we mentioned <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which is one of these big coordinating mechanisms for the oil and gas industry in a region, for the finance and the J.P. Morgans and the Black Rocks in a region, for the NGOs in the region, for the media in the region.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">All of these need to reach a consensus, and that process takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of work and a lot of negotiation. From their perspective, that&#8217;s democracy. Democracy is getting the NGOs to agree with BlackRock, to agree with the Wall Street Journal, you know, to agree with the community and activist groups who are onboarded with respect to a particular initiative.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">That is the difficult vote building process from their perspective. At the end of the day, a bunch of, you know, populist groups decide that they like a truck driver who&#8217;s popular on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">TikTok<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> more than the carefully constructed consensus of the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">military brass. Well, then from their perspective, you know, that is now an attack on democracy.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And this is what this whole branding effort was. And, of course, democracy, again, has that magic regime change predicate where democracy is our magic watchword to be able to overthrow governments from the ground up in a sort of color revolution style whole of society effort to topple a. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">A democratically elected government from the inside, for example, as we did in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukraine <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, Viktor Yanukovych was democratically elected by the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Ukrainian <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">people, like him or hate him. I&#8217;m not even issuing an opinion there. But the fact is, is we color revolutioned him out of office. We January 6th him out of office, actually, to be frank. I mean, with respect to the you had a <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">funded right sector thugs and f<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">ive billion dollars worth of civil society money pumped into this to overthrow a democratically elected government in the name of democracy. And they took that special set of skills home. And now it&#8217;s here, perhaps potentially to stay. And this has fundamentally changed the nature of American governance because of the threat of one small voice becoming popular on social media.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">51:58 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Let me ask you a question. So into that, that you&#8217;re talking about, what do you think is the most important thing that you think is group of institutions that you say now define democracy, the NGOs. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Foreign policy establishment etc you you included the mainstream media Now, in 2021, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NSA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">broke into my private text apps and read them and then leaked them to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the New York Times <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">against me. That just happened again to me last week. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And I&#8217;m wondering how common that is for the intel agencies to work with so-called mainstream media like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the New York Times t<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">o hurt their opponents.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">52:37 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Well, that is the function of these interstitial, government-funded, non-governmental organizations and think tanks like, for example, we mentioned <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Atlantic Council<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which is, you know, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s think tank, but other groups like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Aspen Institute<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which draws the lion&#8217;s share of its funding from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and other government agencies. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You know, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Aspen Institute <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was busted doing the same thing with the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Hunter Biden <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">laptop censorship. You know, you had this strange situation where the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">had advanced knowledge of the pending publication of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Hunter Biden <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">laptop story.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And then magically, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Aspen Institute<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which is run by essentially former <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, former <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NSA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, former <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">FBI<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, and then a bunch of sort of civil society organizations, all hold a mass stakeholder censorship simulation, a three-day conference. This came out and Yoel Roth was there. This is a big part of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">file leaks.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">It&#8217;s been mentioned in multiple congressional investigations. But somehow <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Aspen Institute<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, which is basically an addendum of the national security state, got the exact same information that the national security state spied on journalists and political figures to obtain and not only leaked it, but then basically did a joint coordinated censorship simulator in September, two months before the election. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">In order, just like with the censorship of mail-in ballots, to be in ready position to pre-censor anyone online amplifying the news story that had not even broken yet.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">54:13 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The Aspen Institute<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">? So, I mean, which is, by the way, I spent my life in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Washington<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. It&#8217;s kind of a, I mean,<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Walter Isaacson<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, formerly of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Time Magazine<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, ran it, former president of CNN.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I had no idea it was part of the National Security State. I had no idea its funding came from the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">US <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">government. This is the first time I&#8217;ve ever heard that. But given, assuming what you&#8217;re saying is true, it&#8217;s a little weird that<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Walter Isaacson <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">left <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Aspens <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to write a biography of <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Elon Musk<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. Strange or no?<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">54:43 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Yeah. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I don&#8217;t know. I haven&#8217;t read that book. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">From what I&#8217;ve heard from people, it&#8217;s a relatively fair treatment. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Just total speculation. But I suspect that <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Walter Isaacson<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> has struggled with this issue and may not even firmly fall in one particular place. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">In the sense that Walter Isenson did a series of interviews of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, actually with the <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Atlantic Council <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and in other settings, where he interviewed <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">specifically on the issue of the need to get rid of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the First Amendment <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and the threat that free speech on social media poses to democracy. Now, at the time, I was very concerned. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">This was between 2017 and 2019 when he did these <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">interviews. I was very concerned because Isaacson expressed what seemed to me to be a highly sympathetic view about the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">perspective on killing<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">the First Amendment<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Now, he didn&#8217;t formally endorse that position, but it left me very skittish about Isaacson. But what I should say is, at the time, I don&#8217;t think very many people, in fact, I know virtually nobody in the country, had any idea how deep the rabbit hole went. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">When it came to the construction of the censorship industry and how deep the tentacles had grown within the military and the national security state in order to buoy and consolidate it. Much of that, frankly, He did not even come to public light until even last year. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Frankly, some of that was galvanized by <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Elon Musk&#8217;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">acquisition in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Twitter <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">files and the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Republican <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">turnover in the House that allowed these multiple investigations, the lawsuits like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Missouri <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">v. Biden, the discovery process there.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And, you know, multiple other things like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Disinformation Governance Board<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, who, by the way, the interim head of that, the head of that, Nina Jankovic, got her start in the censorship industry from this exact same clandestine intelligence community censorship network created after the 2014 Crimea situation.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Nina Jankovic, when her name came up in 2022 as part of <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Disinformation Governance Board<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, I almost fell out of my chair because I had been tracking Nina&#8217;s network for. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Almost five years at that point, when her name came up as part of the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">UK <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">intercluster cell of a busted clandestine operation to censor the internet called the Integrity Initiative, which was created by the UK Foreign Office and was backed by <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s political affairs unit in order to carry out this thing that we talked about at the beginning of this dialogue, the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">&#8216;s sort of psychological inoculation. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And the ability to kill so-called <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russian <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">propaganda or rising political groups who wanted to maintain energy relations with <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">at a time when the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">U.S. w<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">as trying to kill the Nord Stream and other pipeline relations.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">57:39 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Well, they did that.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">57:42 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">They think Nina Jankovic was a part of this outfit. And then who is the head of it after Nina Jankovic went down? It was <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael Chertoff<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. And <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael Chertoff <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was running the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Aspen Institute <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">cyber group. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And then <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Aspen Institute <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">then goes on to be the censorship simulator for the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Hunter Biden <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">laptop story. And then two years later, Chertoff is then the head of the disinformation governance board after Nina is forced to step down.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:05 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Yeah, close friends.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:06 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Of course, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael Chertoff <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was the chairman at Bay.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:10 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I&#8217;m sorry. Of course.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:11 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael Chertoff <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">was the chairman of the largest military contractor in<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Europe<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, BAE Military. So it&#8217;s all connected.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:20 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">You&#8217;ve blown my mind so many times in this conversation that I&#8217;m going to need a nap directly after it&#8217;s done. So I&#8217;ve just got two more questions for you, one short, one a little longer. Short one is for people who&#8217;ve made it this far an hour in and want to know more about this topic. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And by the way, I hope you&#8217;ll come back whenever you have the time. To explore different threads of the story. But for people who want to do research on their own, how can your&#8230; research on this be found on the internet?<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">58:48 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Sure. So our foundation is foundationforfreedomonline.com. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">We publish all manner of reports on every aspect of the censorship industry, from what we talked about with the role of the military-industrial complex in the national security state to what the universities are doing to, you know, I sometimes refer to as digital MK ultra. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">There&#8217;s just the field of basically the science of censorship and how, and the funding of these psychological manipulation methods in order to nudge people into different belief systems as they did with <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">COVID<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, as they did with energy and every sensitive policy issue is what they essentially had an ambition for.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">But so the, my foundation for freedom online.com website is one way. The other way is just on X. My handle is at Mike Ben cyber. I&#8217;m very active there and publish a lot of long-form video and written content on all this. I think it&#8217;s one of the most important issues in the world today.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">59:43 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So it certainly is. And so that leads directly and seamlessly to my final question, which is about X. And I&#8217;m not just saying this because I post content there, but I think objectively it&#8217;s the last big platform that&#8217;s free or sort of free or more free. You post there too. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">But. you know, we&#8217;re at the very beginning of an election year with a couple of different wars unfolding simultaneously in 2024. So do you expect that that platform can stay free for the duration of this year?<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">01:00:15 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">It&#8217;s under an extraordinary amount of pressure, and that pressure is going to continue to mount as the election approaches. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Elon Musk <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is a very unique individual, and he has a unique buffer, perhaps, when it comes to the national security state, because the national security state is actually quite reliant on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Elon Musk <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">properties, whether that&#8217;s for the green revolution when it comes to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Tesla <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">and the battery technology there when it comes to SpaceX. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">The State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is hugely dependent on SpaceX.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">Because of its unbelievable sort of pioneering and saturating presence in the field of low-Earth orbit satellites that are basically how our telecom system runs, to things like Starlink. There are dependencies that the national security state has on <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Elon Musk<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;d have as much room to negotiate if he had become the world&#8217;s richest man selling, you know a<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">t a lemonade stand. So there&#8217;s, and if the national security state goes too hard on him by invoking something like CFIUS to sort of nationalize some of these properties, I think the shockwave that it would send to the international investor community would be irrecoverable at a time when we&#8217;re engaged in great power competitions<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">tate-level censorship laws. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">So they&#8217;re trying to kill, you know, they&#8217;re trying to sort of induce a, I think a sort of corporate regime change through a series of things involving a sort of death by a thousand paper cuts.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">I think there are seven or eight different <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Justice Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">or SEC or FTC investigations into <\/span><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Elon Musk&#8217;s <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">properties that all started after his acquisition of<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">X<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. But then what they&#8217;re trying to do right now is what I call the transatlantic flank attack 2.0. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">We talked in this dialogue about how the censorship industry really got its start when a bunch of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">State Department <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">exiles who were expecting promotions took their special set of skills in coercing <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">European <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">countries to pass. Sanctions on themselves to cut off their own leg to spite themselves in order to pass sanctions on <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Russia<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">They ran back that same playbook with doing a roadshow for censorship instead for sanctions. We&#8217;re now witnessing, you know, transatlantic flank attack 2.0, if you will, which is because they have lost a lot of their federal government powers to do this same censorship operation they&#8217;ve been doing from 2018 to 2022, in part because the House has totally turned on them. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">In part because of the media, in part because <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Missouri <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">v. Biden, which won a slam dunk case actually banning government censorship at the trial court and appellate court levels, is now before the Supreme Court.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">They&#8217;ve now moved into two strategies. One of them is state-level censorship laws. California just passed a new law, which the censorship industry totally drove from start to finish, around what they call platform accountability and transparency, which is basically f<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">orcing <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Elon Musk <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to give over the kind of narrative mapping data that these <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">conduits and <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Pentagon <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">cutouts were using to create these weapons of mass deletion, these abilities to just censor everything at scale because they had all the internal platform data.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Elon Musk <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">took that away. They&#8217;re using state laws like this new California law to crack that open. But the major threat right now is the threat from <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Europe <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">with something called the EU Digital Services Act. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Which was cooked up in tandem with folks like <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NewsGuard<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which has a board of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Michael Hayden<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, head of the<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-xoduu5 r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">CIA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">NSA<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, four-star general. <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-1kfrs79 r-rjixqe r-z4anl9 r-1ddef8g\">Rick Stengel <\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is on that board from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department&#8217;s <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\" style=\"font-size: 16px;\">propaganda office. Tom Ridge is on that board from <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the Department of Homeland Securit\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Oh, and Anders Fogh Rasmussen is on that board. He was the general secretary of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73 r-1oszu61 r-13awgt0 r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md r-d9fdf6 r-1f1sjgu r-1r9r5i7\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-rjixqe r-1xnzce8\" dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\"> under the Obama administration. So you have <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NSA<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, four-star general, <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">DHS<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, and <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">the State Department <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">working with\u2014 the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU <\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">to craft the censorship laws that now are the largest existential threat to <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">X<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">, other than potentially X advertiser boycotts, because there is now, disinformation is now banned as a matter of law in the <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU<\/span><\/span><span class=\"css-1qaijid r-fdjqy7 r-1inkyih r-vrz42v\">.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">And the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is a bigger market for X than the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">US<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. There&#8217;s only 300 million some people in the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">US<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. There&#8217;s 450 million in <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">X <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">is now forced to comply with this brand new law that just got ratified this year, where they either need to forfeit 6% of their global annual revenue to the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">to maintain operations there, or put in place essentially the kind of <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">CIA <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">bumper cars, if you will, that I&#8217;ve been describing over the course of this, in order to have an internal mechanism to censor anything that the <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">EU<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">, which is just a proxy for <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">NATO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Deems to be disinformation. And you can bet with 65 elections around the globe this year, you can predict every single time what they&#8217;re going to define disinformation as. So that&#8217;s the main fight right now is dealing with the transatlantic flank attack from <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Europe<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">.<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1otgn73\" tabindex=\"0\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-a023e6 r-1kfrs79 r-1cwl3u0 r-15zivkp r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">Tucker Carlson<\/div><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">01:05:11 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">I&#8217;ve said this five times, but that&#8217;s just one of the most remarkable stories I&#8217;ve ever heard. And I&#8217;m grateful to you for bringing it to us. Mike Benz, Executive Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. And I hope we see you again.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\">\u00a0<\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-18u37iz r-1h0z5md\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-c67a83 r-1qk6wnv r-1p0dtai r-1d2f490 r-u8s1d r-zchlnj r-ipm5af\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">MB<\/span><\/div><div class=\"css-175oi2r r-1awozwy r-18u37iz\"><div class=\"css-175oi2r\"><div class=\"css-1rynq56 r-fdjqy7 r-n6v787 r-1cwl3u0 r-19u6a5r\" dir=\"auto\">01:05:23 <span style=\"font-size: 16px;\">Thanks, Tucker.<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Benz was the Deputy Assissant Secretary for Internal Communications and Information Policy during the Trump presidency and today is the founder and executive director of Foundation for Freedom Online which is a watchdog dedicated to restoring the promise of a free and open internet (quote from this website). 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