{"id":160,"date":"2023-12-26T19:40:25","date_gmt":"2023-12-26T18:40:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wilraps.nl\/?p=160"},"modified":"2023-12-27T00:22:05","modified_gmt":"2023-12-26T23:22:05","slug":"nate-hagens-renewables-and-sequestering","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wilraps.nl\/?p=160","title":{"rendered":"Energy sources, storytelling, the rider and the elephant"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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In the following paragraphs every line in italic<\/em> is an actual quote from Mr. Nate Hagens derived from this video\u00a0<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t

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All of the content put up in this post + all the rebuttal someone might bounce back because one or the other thinks the other one is wrong … be aware that humans are far from having a property called a computer database .<\/strong><\/p>

Be aware of your<\/em> Rider on your<\/em> Elephant and avoid the\u00a0<\/strong>mistake of trying to beat your elephant. You can’t\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t

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  • and we’re clever but we’re not being so wise because we’re drawing down this bank account and treating it as if it were interest\u00a0<\/em><\/li>
  • and this is the kind of story of industrialization is we have substituted human physical labor and animal labor with machines. These machines run on fossil carbon, which is finite, and is incredibly powerful<\/em><\/li>
  • QUESTION: Nate Hagens says the following line
    • if you add up coal, oil and natural gas and turn them into oil equivalents we use a hundred billion barrels<\/em><\/li>
    • we use this questionable number per what? Per day, per year, per decade?<\/li>
    • then Nate doubles down by stating ideas that are not defined where this factor 5 is derived from
      • if each one is worth five years of my physical labor, we’re in effect pulling from the ground 500 billion worker equivalents and adding them to the global system where there is around 5 billion real human workers doing physical work. That is not unlimited. It is a bank account that we’re drawing down 10 million times faster that it was triple charged by the daily photosynthesis of ancient algae and phytoplankton in the oceans that died and went to the bottom and formed into oil. So it’s depleting<\/em><\/li>
      • when describing the faults of humans in his third pillar of Energy Blindness Nate Hagens states the following
        • but energy has massively more impact in our economies, and we haven’t had to think that way because the last 120 years with the exception of recessions, we’ve had more energy available to the human system than we did the year before<\/em><\/li>
        • underpinning again the in-his-view<\/em> the alleged depletion-and-scarcity problem by stating it AS FACT whereas Mr. Hagens doesn’t address the business decisions by oil companies to avoid pumping up too much otherwise their business model would be doling out dollars to the public by making fossil fuels cheap. No, Hagens of course would dismiss this point immediately<\/li><\/ul><\/li>
        • you can print money but you can’t print energy. You can only extract the energy faster<\/em><\/li><\/ul><\/li>
        • this is a revealing point where Hagens stands which is having no regard for what these fossil fuels HAVE DONE for people namely keep people as warm and building shelter AGAINST Mother Nature’s cruel oscillating temperatures
          • and it’s like we happened upon this giant prize of fossil hydrocarbons. And we’ve been throwing a party for the last 150 years . And unfortunately most of it has been wasted\u00a0<\/em><\/li><\/ul><\/li>
          • this man is a misanthrope by all means!!!<\/li>
          • we have underpaid for the main input to our economy for the last century. If we paid the real price, which would be the cost of creation, not just the cost of extraction, or the costs of pollution and externalities, there would not be a single industry in the world that would be profitable today<\/em><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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            What is displayed in the footage i.e. what does the story want to convey :<\/p>

            • a farm with cattle<\/li>
            • industry huge shafts billowing out smoke (which is actually water vapor) showing twice<\/li>
            • ill-speaking of humans being “casino junkets” we are showed Times Square in NYC with all of its neon lighting trying to buttress his dumb words to be true<\/li>
            • with disturbingly classical melodies playing in the background Schipol airport is shown while Hagens is talking about the ‘glut’ of civilization’\u00a0<\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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              Some observations:<\/p>

              • until 5 min 20sec I observe a storyline drawing a nasty picture of humans as a whole, humans a like parasites depleting fossil resources much faster than nature allegedly according to Mr. Hagens can form new resources. Wouldn’t anybody up until now slowly start to hate humans?<\/li>
              • \u00a0starting at 8 min 20sec Hagens addresses a system of subsidies and other tendrils to make renewables appealing in order to continue the increasing level of (energy) consumption.<\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t
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